Why aren't you using Adobe Version Cue?

Written by That Web Guy on 2nd May 2009. 25 comments

Why aren't you using Adobe Version Cue?
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Every designer I have ever interviewed for a job has stumbled when asked if they know of or have used Adobe Version Cue. Some common responses are "Yes it's that program that gets installed with Photoshop" or "It's for making versions of graphics I think?". In all fairness both responses combined do almost make a complete answer :-)

I'm first to admit I ignored it for a long time, until I read somewhere that Version Cue is basically versioning for graphics using your Adobe applications (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign). To anyone who programs for a living they understand the benefit necessity of having version control of their code. As I'm a big user of SVN, the thought of having something similar for the graphics side of web development sounded very appealing.

I've learned that many professionals and beginners alike still don't really know what VC is or how it works, how to set it up, or what to do once it's implemented.

The truth is, setting up a Version Cue server and implementing it into your work-flow is very easy, and you'll soon understand how it offers a far superior alternative to just saving your files onto a regular file system or server. And it will occasionally save your arse as it has mine on several.

How does it work?

Used in conjunction with Adobe Bridge, the Version Cue server ideally runs on a dedicated machine on your network, although you can run it on your own workstation.

The first time you go to save your work you will be prompted to check it in to Version Cue. This is version 1 of that particular design. Each subsequent check-in of that file is considered a new version, and you can browse the previous versions of any file using Adobe Bridge.

Every time you check a file in you will be prompted to enter a comment for this version. It helps to put something meaningful that will make sense if you or someone else has to read it later on.

Real world scenario 01: Roll back to previous versions

Lets say during the design phase you've been given several edits by the client, and at some stage they say "You know what? I think I liked it better when we had that side bar thingy on the left and the blue theme. Let's go back to that". Using Adobe Bridge, you can view all the previous versions of that design (including the one the client is referring too) and see the comments you've (or other designers) made at each check in. You then locate the version which the client described and promote it to the current version and if the client is still happy, mark it as 'approved'.

This also means all the other designers in the team wont have any doubt which version is going to be used come time to begin implementation.

Version Cue CS3

Real world scenario 02: Having your arse saved

You've finished the design and flattened the PSD so you could send it to a client as a JPG for review. At some point you got distracted and saved your work in a flattened state and closed the file. With Version Cue it's a no-brainer - just roll back to the previous version. Without Version Cue, you would be creating the PSD again from scratch!

Real world scenario 03: Alerting other designers

If another designer opens a file from the Version Cue server that you have checked out, they will be alerted to the fact when opening, saving and checking in. This gives them the opportunity to save a new version of the file as to not conflict with what you are doing.

The bad stuff

Like any software that seems to good to be true there are some annoyances. This one is a massive oversight on Adobe's part, as for some reason they chose to ignore standard back-up best practices by not allowing back-ups to be saved over a network. This means back-ups are actually performed on the same workstation, which is pointless if it doesn't have a separate additional physical hard drive. If you're just backing uo to the same drive and it dies, you're screwed.

You will have to slave another drive in the server and instruct VC to use it for backups. You can also use an external USB or Firewire drive, but they are much slower than an internal SATA drive.

On the topic of back-ups, there is no automated way to perform backups on VC. They have to be initiated manually every time. So for maximum peace of mind you will want to remember to perform a backup each night.

And finally there is also no incremental backup function. So if you're Version Cue backup data is 500mb for example, and during the course of the day you create another 10mb worth of art, running a back-up will create an additional 510mb file instead of just adding 10mb into the existing backup.

That aside, you owe it to you and your team to implement Version Cue. I will be glad to offer any assistance here if required, but I've only familiar with VC on CS3.

More information

I've really only touched the surface here. Watch this video and you will get a better idea of how powerful and awesome it is.

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Marvin The Martian

Marvin The Martian

My only issue with version cue is that along with Bridge, it is a very heavy program. I love both, but it takes it toll.

Tuesday 19th May 2009 | 07:54 PM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

Storm

Storm

I use Bridge, but I`m not a GD, so never heard of VC before. Interesting.

Wednesday 20th May 2009 | 03:43 PM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Liviu

I tried to use VC, but it's slow. I find it complicated for what I really need. As an alternative I use Dropbox; since I do mostly code it's quite perfect :-)

Thursday 21st May 2009 | 08:00 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

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Responding to this comment by Liviu

Dropbox is awesome isn't it? I use it a lot but for large graphics it's not very suitable - and it doesn't have versioning.

Thursday 21st May 2009 | 08:21 PM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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encosion

Just been forced onto VC at work... Busy wondering why - it seams unecessarily complicated... DropBox does actually do versioning... Admittedly I'm not working with files much larger than 20mb, but I've had no problems with it at all...

Monday 20th July 2009 | 05:39 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

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haldun boz

Dropbox is awesome!!!

Friday 20th November 2009 | 05:30 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

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Othman

Thanks a lot. Finally I got hold of what this VC thing really is. Nice plain English... If only Adobe too could write a VC intro like that.

Wednesday 30th December 2009 | 03:08 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

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Thom

A note of caution. VQ CS4 introduced a series of serious problems that make it unusable for many people. Adobe doesn't seem to have plans to resolve the issues. My very serious efforts to find out what's planned for the future of VQ led me to believe that CS3 was the last release that will be of any use. I could be wrong, but you should be very careful if you depend on this software.

Tuesday 5th January 2010 | 10:04 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by Thom

Thanks Thom. I played with VC CS4 during the Christmas break and wasn't impressed at all. The plan was to see if it offered anything more than VC CS3 - which it didn't really. I'll stick with VC CS3 for a while I think.

Wednesday 6th January 2010 | 06:54 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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macgrl

sounds cool - but i don't share files - i do use PScs4 heavy duty with large files. i want to disable VC CS4 because of all the bugs and lots of posts suggesting this is why my PScs4 crashes constantly. thoughts? thanks for your post and this blog :)

Monday 25th January 2010 | 01:04 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by macgrl

Can't say I have any advice to offer on VC CS4, as I've not yet been able to justify using CS4. That combined with all the negativity surrounding VC CS4, I'm happy to give it a miss.

I am in the middle of writing a tutorial on setting up VC CS3 though, although I doubt it will be compatible with CS4.

Tuesday 26th January 2010 | 03:13 PM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Jamie

Are there any alternatives? After deciding that VC is the one for us - I read that Adobe are not going to support it in CS5 so it seems its not very future proof to invest now.

Friday 19th March 2010 | 10:16 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by Jamie

Yeah that's a shame, because it' s one of the best apps they've done. Alternatives? None that integrate into the Adobe suite and offer true real-time versioning and roll back within.

I still use VC CS3 as it's incredibly stable, as long a you don't try to upgrade it - then you're in for a world of pain. Tried that once and spent more than a day trying to sort out the mess it made.

Sunday 21st March 2010 | 07:12 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Jen

Yikes, I'm just starting to investigate using VersionCue CS4 and don't like what I see at all. Someone suggested I use Versions, which is the Mac app for Subversion. Do you know anything about that?

Also, this may be a silly question: How (if at all) does any VC solution know what files are linked together? Does VersionCue know, for example, what eps files happen to be linked to a particular InDesign doc?

If VersionCue CS4 is out of the question, are there other solutions are there that can handle the way our files are all linked together?

Need answers... really appreciate your help!

Tuesday 23rd March 2010 | 12:45 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by Jen

Hi Jen,

I played with CS4 on the Mac briefly and it seemed fine. Some have said it's pretty unreliable, but some have also said the VC CS3 is also unreliable, yet I've found it to be very stable on the PC.

As for them knowing what's linked to what, VC doesn't work that way. But let's take InDesign for a good example. You have a project open which contains several assets, like bitmaps and EPS files. You can actually view the versions of those assets and even change them right there in InDesign, and edit them and check them back in (you don't even need to involve Bridge) and make that a new version. It's the InDesign file that knows what files are associated with it, not Version Cue itself.

Version Cue is essentially just a file manager (create projects and folders etc...) like any other, except it allows versioning of any file that integrates easily within Adobe apps.

As general good practice, I make sure all assets I use on any given InDesign file are stored in the same project or folder as my .indd file in VC, that way they are all relative to each other.

What ever you do be sure to give VC a fair try. You'll eventually wonder how you got by without it. Especially when you want to un-flatten that PSD you accidentally saved flattened or roll-back to previous versions (or previous assets) of other Adobe projects.

Hope that helps!

Tuesday 23rd March 2010 | 06:02 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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lairadelcordero

It's there anyway to use VC in linux? i have a dedicated server running whit mac os X, just to use VC, but id rather preffer ubuntu to manage a server.

Monday 19th April 2010 | 10:11 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by lairadelcordero

I doubt it, unless you could virtualise it.

Tuesday 20th April 2010 | 06:53 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Melanie

Ok, this may be a really stupid question but.... What does VC due for regular ol' jpgs? We have a ton of images (90% .jpgs and about 10% psd) saved on our server and we are looking for some organization. Is VC the way to go or more effort than what it is worth? Other than having an "undo" what is the benefit for non-Adobe files?

Tuesday 20th April 2010 | 08:51 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by Melanie

Other than versioning, there isn't much benefit. Unless you want to limit access to the files to certain people. But versioning is enough of a reason IMHO.

Wednesday 21st April 2010 | 05:38 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Mark

Adobe has discontinued Version Cue with CS5 :(
http://www.adobe.com/products/versioncue/

I was googling for alternatives and this post was the first result!

Wednesday 5th May 2010 | 04:59 PM Reply Comment URL Back to top

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jon

I just discovered Gridiron's Flow which seems to be a solid alternative. Try in to find some objective online comparisons and reviews.

http://www.gridironsoftware.com/products/flow.html

Thursday 6th May 2010 | 04:11 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by jon

Thanks for the tips Mark and John. I will have a look at Flow.

Thursday 6th May 2010 | 08:26 AM Reply Comment URL Profile Back to top

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Mark

I'm already using Subversion for source code control, so I'm hoping to migrate from Version Cue to a solution that sits on SVN.

Am going to look into PixelNovel for this http://pixelnovel.com/ and also found a discussion on Super User http://superuser.com/questions/5917/version-control-for-images

Thursday 6th May 2010 | 10:50 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

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Elaine Murphy

http://www.wandisco.com/php/pr.php?rss=0&prdate=2010-07-27

Abandoned Adobe Version Cue Users Rapidly Moving to Subversion

Creative Professionals Find Subversion Delivers Exactly What They Need to Store and Manage Graphics and Animation Files

San Ramon, CA July 27, 2010 – WANdisco, the makers of Enterprise Subversion with the most active core developers from the project on staff, today announced that a number of organizations stranded by Adobe’s decision to abandon Version Cue in CS5 are finding that Subversion makes an excellent replacement. In addition to being free, as well as easy to install and use, these organizations are also finding that Subversion solves a number of issues they had with Version Cue.

Wednesday 28th July 2010 | 03:35 AM Reply Comment URL Back to top

That Web Guy

That Web Guy

Responding to this comment by Elaine Murphy

Thanks Elaine.

As much as I love subversion for source control, it's a poor substitute for Version Cue as it doesn't have any of the integration built into the Adobe apps.

Just to cite one example, you can't move back and forwards between different versions of assets from within In-Design. This is an essential part of the work-flow and what we've come to expect.

Furthermore there is the problem of setting up a Subversion server, no easy feat and certainly outside the skill-set of your average designer. You could use a 3rd party hosted solution but that would be tediously slow, and still nowhere near as useful as Version Cue.

Though VC is technically discontinued, they are working with industry partners to develop their own asset management systems. While this means a 3rd party solution will eventually arrive, it also likely means we will have to pay for it. That said, it will be far superior to using Subversion as it will at a bare minimum work like VC does (did).

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